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04-18-2006, 12:59 AM Mike Hall Joined on 04-16-2006 Red Bluff Posts 66 Another wonderful track day NCRC, thanks for the wonderful day. I'll get this new old 250 HP car sorted out soon and stop holding up the open group's traffic. I had some problems, but old-new things always do I guess. However, I had a ball again! Sure miss the HP tho, but as we speak I'm working on that...........alum heads, etc. Ken has 505 HP in that awesome new Z06 (GT2..huh?) Vette, what a street tire deal that is!   Mike Hall NCRC/ARC #10 '95 Mustang Cobra (race car) '03 Mustang Mach 1 (road/track) '93 Mustang 5.0 LX (drag car) 66.81.53.86   Report

04-18-2006, 6:52 PM Alex Joined on 04-15-2006 Posts 16 Re: Another wonderful track day  Mike Hall wrote: Ken has 505 HP in that awesome new Z06 (GT2..huh?) Vette, what a street tire deal that is!   Ken spoke with me later in the day and suggested that he get bumped up to GT1. Tam also said that he and his Evo sould be up in GT2. Cool guys I'll change the results to reflect that.   Alex Ramirez 24.7.151.66   Report

04-18-2006, 10:50 PM Ken Cemo Joined on 04-19-2006 Posts 11 Re: Another wonderful track day Mike- It was great to see you at the Track. Yes-the horsepower makes for lots of speed especially on the main straight. I was gaining speed so fast that the heads up display was skipping numbers all the way up to 140 mph! 24.2.62.67   Report

04-18-2006, 10:51 PM Nobody Joined on 04-14-2006 Posts 39 Re: Another wonderful track day I think everyone would agree that no Evo is a GT3!  Bone stock Evos have a HP:LB ratio that put it in the GT-2 class and all it takes is a chip and exhaust to put an Evo into GT1 (http://www.ncracing.org/tt/car-classing.html).  Course, it takes more than a chip and an exhaust on an Evo to outrun a spec Miata....Tam's got a Miata, too, so maybe that won't be an issue.    Dennis Matson '02 S2000 '05 Evo no more 71.131.227.115   Report

04-19-2006, 3:06 PM vtluu Joined on 04-19-2006 San Jose, CA Posts 16 Re: Another wonderful track day  Nobody wrote: Bone stock Evos have a HP:LB ratio that put it in the GT-2 class Ah, your 2005 Evo maybe, but remember 2003 Evos are rated at only 271 bhp. The weight/power (3263/271) squeaks in to GT3 at 12.04. Granted the "271 bhp" is probably a bit of a soft rating since in bone-stock form it dynos about the same as a "300 bhp" Subaru STi. Splitting hairs aside, yes, the Evo should probably start out in GT2. My "stock" (as defined by SCCA Solo2 rules) street-tire Miata is in GT4 and is probably an underdog even for that class, so I'd be hard-pressed to run for GT1 points in it. Viet-Tam Luu (a.k.a. "Tam") NCRC Member #903 2003 Mitsubishi Evo 8 #149, GT2 1999 Mazda Miata #149, GT4 65.113.40.130   Report

04-19-2006, 5:27 PM Nobody Joined on 04-14-2006 Posts 39 Re: Another wonderful track day  vtluu wrote:  Nobody wrote: Bone stock Evos have a HP:LB ratio that put it in the GT-2 class Ah, your 2005 Evo maybe, but remember 2003 Evos are rated at only 271 bhp. The weight/power (3263/271) squeaks in to GT3 at 12.04. Granted the "271 bhp" is probably a bit of a soft rating since in bone-stock form it dynos about the same as a "300 bhp" Subaru STi. Splitting hairs aside, yes, the Evo should probably start out in GT2. My "stock" (as defined by SCCA Solo2 rules) street-tire Miata is in GT4 and is probably an underdog even for that class, so I'd be hard-pressed to run for GT1 points in it. LOL!  Yeah, good point on the early Evos.  As opposed to other classification systems, I think the NCRC/ARC one is pretty spot on.  Though no one would argue that a Stock S2000 is one full class ahead of a stock Evo.  I mean we all know S2000s are better than Evos, but perhaps not by one full class.  Nudge nudge wink wink!    NCRC members, as far as I know, have all been really fair about reclassifications as well, so it's not that big of an issue.   When I've looked at the rules for other associations I cringe just trying to determine how either of my cars will be classed--and more often than not most rules favor minimal mods....definintely not for me!    Dennis Matson '02 S2000 '05 Evo no more 71.131.227.115   Report

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