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Started by Alex at 12-09-2006 12:15 PM. Topic has 22 replies.
  
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 12-09-2006, 12:15 PM
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Alex
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Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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Hello NCRC members,
We would like to hear your thoughts on what our Time Trial schedule should be for ’07.
Time Trials on all seven confirmed events?
Only on weekend events?
Only on weekend events plus Laguna?
Keep it on the first day of our two-day events?
Etc…
Also, we’re thinking of adding an interesting twist next season by having the Reno-Fernley time trial be a double-points event.
Thanks in advance.
Alex Ramirez
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12-09-2006, 9:11 PM
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Klein
 
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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Alex:
I'll start the ball rolling. I think the more TT dates the better, regardless of the day of the week or location. I personally prefer weekends, but I don't think you should try to restrict the TTs to weekends. The double points at Fernley would be fun. It would probably get me motivated to "go over the hill". I've been wanting to run that track anyway. Regarding 2-day events: maybe you could mix it up; sometimes do it the first day, sometimes the second day. My opinions are not strong...except that I really like the time trials and hope they will continue,
Thanks for all your work on this.
Steve
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12-10-2006, 12:36 AM
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Mike Hall
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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Alex, Steve took my words right out of my mouth!
I agree completely and would add, if one per week-end, it should be the first day. I would love 10 or more, but we have to be realistic and fair to the working world. So I say, let's have one each week-end track period, on the first day, but have one every track period, which would be 7-10 or so! I can't go to LS, doesn't mean I say no Seca, but wouldn't hurt my feelings!
Hey, by the way this year the Series Winners got track credit of $200; second $100; third $50. Now that really helps and makes it worth while.
Thanks NCRC for the credit awards, that is just AWESOME! Total AWE!!!!
You should take note of this and other little things that pay. Say for instance, the last three years I have over $200 for new members; $520 for free days (11th track day is free) and $200 for winning GT-2 TT. Now that's $920 to my credit. So you deduct that from my 3 yr track fees and find out my track days are about $200. Some people are even better than this, say you work for the club, etc.
Show me another club that does credit $ awards for so many things!
Be cool to have a tire contingency, like Kumho bucks, Hoosier dollars, Maypops by Bald Eagle incl's free patches, etc.
Thanks for the opportunity to respond.
Mike Hall
NCRC/ARC #10
'95 Mustang Cobra (race car)
'03 Mustang Mach 1 (road/track)
'93 Mustang 5.0 LX (drag car)
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12-10-2006, 9:37 AM
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Brian Bonessa
Joined on 04-19-2006
Red Bluff, CA
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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I agree with above comments from Steve and Mike. In addition, maybe consider gridding the field for the TT. In other words, have cars enter the track based on previous times set at the track the day of the TT. Fastest goes out first, than second quickest etc. This would reduce one driver holding up another driver who is quicker, which really ends up slowing both drivers down a bit until the pass is made. I know this would be more work for Alex, but he is young and can take it. Several of us would be willing to help if needed. Just a suggestion, I can handle it if it is not feasible.
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1990 Silver Mustang LX (Track)
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12-10-2006, 6:34 PM
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Fiat128
Joined on 12-11-2006
Chico, CA
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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I really like the idea of weekend Time Trials, and I really like Saturday events. Either way, I'm going to try and make as many events as possible in 2007, and I look forward to running at Reno-Fernley for the first time.
Chris H.
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12-10-2006, 10:22 PM
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Fast Viper Dan
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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Well I don’t participate in the time trials but I have an idea, How about if there are, say 10 time trials, you use your best 7 for the over all points?
This would allow every one a chance to miss a couple of events but remain competitive.
Just a thought.
Dan
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12-11-2006, 1:40 AM
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Mike Hall
Joined on 04-16-2006
Red Bluff
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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Hi Dan, They drop the lowest 3 TT's by the rules for yr end points. So if 7, only 4 are graded. For instance, this yr I didn't do LS, blew a clutch in Reno and cancelled BW, my three!
Kinda of why I would like 10 or so, instead of 7! Alex, how about TEN or so, I forgot about the drops!
You should run them Dan, get ARC and TT $ credits. I can't wait to get my race car going to do both, has been a long haul, should have taken your advise and just bought the Panoz. Would have been money ahead!
Mike Hall
NCRC/ARC #10
'95 Mustang Cobra (race car)
'03 Mustang Mach 1 (road/track)
'93 Mustang 5.0 LX (drag car)
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12-11-2006, 6:28 PM
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Alex
Joined on 04-15-2006
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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Great feedback everybody. Anybody else?
To those who haven't replied yet: Go ahead and post something. It's valuable even if you're just going to second somebody else's opinion.
Alex Ramirez
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12-13-2006, 2:23 PM
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Nobody
Joined on 04-14-2006
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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First of all, I'd like to suggest sending out an email to everyone
who's an NCRC or ARC member and let them know that this message board
exists. A lot (everyone) I spoke with at the last event replied, "oh,
we have a message board?" when I told them I'd post some info up on
it. More interaction = more participation and feedback.
I'm all for more TTs, though I'm not sure I'll be running very many of
them next year. Perhaps there should be a GTR class in TT (is
that what Exhibition is?). I think that despite the classing
system, race cars do have an advantage over the cars that are driven to
the track (hey, wait--that's me!) and take some of the fun out of it
for the 'normal' cars that double as grocery haulers.
Double Points at RF would be awesome and even more incentive to get out there, not that I need any.
Any chance we'd ever be able to do an event at night in the dark?
Dennis Matson
'02 S2000
'05 Evo no more
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12-13-2006, 10:51 PM
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SIRO
Joined on 04-05-2006
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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Dennis,
I can't catch you during the daytime and now you want to race at night?
I have no headlights, unfair advantage!
SIRO BIGNOTTI
2002 ZO6 CORVETTE 2005 CADILLAC CTS/V BACKUP TRACK CAR
1996 CORVETTE ITE / TCC TRACK CAR
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12-14-2006, 10:11 PM
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Nobody
Joined on 04-14-2006
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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I wish I could attend the majority of events coming up in '07. To
fund my track excursions in '06, though, I had to sell basically
every non-racing part I had and then some. My stock S2000 seats
paid for my last event and my airbags and SRS the event prior,
etc... Got no more parts to sell aside from what's still inside
me!
In addition to a few NCRC and ARC events, I also want to run a NASA TT event (I want the Thunderhill TTU lap record!) and maybe one ITE. ITE worries me cause of the potential contact, though.
And if we run at night I guess we could just all turn our lights off to be fair. ;)
Dennis Matson
'02 S2000
'05 Evo no more
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12-15-2006, 1:33 AM
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Mike Hall
Joined on 04-16-2006
Red Bluff
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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I hear ya! I also sold a bunch of stuff this year, about 7K worth and I might have to sell my '93 to fund this yr, after this Cobra deal gets thru. I'm setting it up for NASA AI specs, but will fit in ITE, if I add HP and ARC for sure. Not sure what HP it has until dyno test, if over AI's 9.5-1, I'll go AIX, which is unlimited and any tire, fits ITE better too! I hate thick rule books, I guess that's why AI/AIX/ITE/ARC is to my liking. ITE is the smallest, one paragraph! Can get expensive tho, with no restrictions!
good luck and Take care
Mike Hall
NCRC/ARC #10
'95 Mustang Cobra (race car)
'03 Mustang Mach 1 (road/track)
'93 Mustang 5.0 LX (drag car)
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12-23-2006, 8:02 PM
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tracknut
Joined on 04-05-2006
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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Interesting point about folks not knowing we have the forum, Dennis. I'll be sending a note out to announce the Laguna event soon, and will include something in there.
Thanks
Dave
Dave Mills
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01-05-2007, 12:41 AM
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Mike Hall
Joined on 04-16-2006
Red Bluff
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Re: Request for feedback on ’07 Time Trial schedule
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Alex/NCRC, One other thought would be less drops, if less than 10 events. Say like two drops less than 10 and 3 if 10 and more. Seems like 3 is too many for 7-8 events. My 2 cents......
Is the week-end of Apr 28/29 both TT's or just Sat? If both we have 8, if just Sat we have 7.
Thanks for asking our input.
Mike Hall
NCRC/ARC #10
'95 Mustang Cobra (race car)
'03 Mustang Mach 1 (road/track)
'93 Mustang 5.0 LX (drag car)
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